{"id":5242,"date":"2023-10-25T06:55:55","date_gmt":"2023-10-25T06:55:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/news\/spotify-q3-2023-earnings-update-spot\/"},"modified":"2023-10-25T06:55:56","modified_gmt":"2023-10-25T06:55:56","slug":"spotify-q3-2023-earnings-update-spot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/?p=5242","title":{"rendered":"Spotify Q3 2023 Earnings Update (SPOT)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p><figure class=\"getty-figure\" data-type=\"getty-image\"><picture>  <\/picture><figcaption> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>We walked into 2023 thinking we would do just over 20 million in net subscriber adds for the full year, but we&#8217;re actually on track to deliver 30 million, which is a significant beat from where we thought we<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> would be.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">I\u2019ve been following Spotify (<span class=\"ticker-hover-wrapper\">NYSE:SPOT<\/span>) for almost two years now and this was perhaps their best quarter. Not surprised that the stock is +10%.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Here are my notes from today\u2019s earnings.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"><strong>Users<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Despite price increases for the individual subscription plan first time in the US, Spotify did not lose subscribers on net in North America:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">\n<p>when you think about a price increase, there&#8217;s really the 2 components you&#8217;re always going to be focused on. One is anything that elevates churn. And then two, anything that impacts the gross intake in any way. And so what was great was the <strong class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">churn was right in line with expectations<\/strong><span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">. And we talked about in the past <\/span><strong class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">when we&#8217;ve raised prices that churn had never been that material, and it was similar to this go around<\/strong><span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">. And then I guess even just as importantly, <\/span><strong class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">we outperformed on the gross intake side<\/strong><span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\">, which is one of the reasons why we outperformed on overall subs<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2Fba73115e-2d1d-41dc-9.png\" alt=\"users\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Source: Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Premium Mix<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Premium as % of MAU went down over the last 4-5 years as Rest of the World (RoW) region in the MAU mix went from 13% in 1Q\u201919 to 31% in 3Q\u201923. RoW MAU basically 4xed in less than four years. While MAU is generally considered a pretty good funnel to transition to premium subscription, the relationship appears to be a bit weak for RoW so far.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Netflix vs. Spotify<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This is something I track every quarter. After significantly lagging Spotify for a while, Netflix (NFLX) is now narrowing the gap at a pretty fast clip.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I should mention that definition of subscriber of NFLX and SPOT is not apples to apples, so I would caution not to infer more than what this data can tell us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F74100ad4-45d5-4790-8.png\" alt=\"Netflix and Spotify (LTM)\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Source: Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Revenue<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">While overall reported revenue was +10.6% YoY, it was actually +17% YoY. FXN which saw ~300 bps QoQ acceleration. Ads was even better with +24% YoY FXN growth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F211d720d-8465-43da-8.png\" alt=\"Revenue\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Ads as % of revenue kept going up gradually. It was 13.3% of revenue in 3Q\u201923 (vs. 12.7% in 2Q\u201923).<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F26718e9e-5896-44f8-a.png\" alt=\"Ads as % of total revenue\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Gross margin (GM)<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Overall reported GM was +26.4% (~40 bps higher than guided)<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>As you look into 2024, we expect to see a continued improvement in our gross margin trends and a continued improvement in our operating income trends as well.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Music GM was +29.1%. Marketplace continues to be a tailwind to margins:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>we&#8217;re offering more and more products to people on the marketplace side, which is seeing better and better results relative to all the other marketing spend that labels and artists teams are encountering, which, of course, is a great testament for \u2013 meaning more and more artists will keep on investing with us there.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Moreover, ads segment GM was +8.3%, higher than past 6 quarters. Expect more margin improvement here:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>we&#8217;ve seen the improvements in the podcasting business, and we talked about how that&#8217;s been a drag on our gross margins, and <strong>we expect it to soon reach breakeven<\/strong> and then <strong>become something that&#8217;s actually additive to gross profit<\/strong>. So we&#8217;re on track on the podcasting side there, and that should continue to be helpful into 2024. <strong>Same with the music side in terms of incremental gross margins there as well<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Will the launch of audiobooks pour cold water to GM expectations in 2024? While Spotify didn\u2019t share much details about margin structure on audiobooks, they specifically outlined 2024 GM to be higher than 2023:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>When you think about the audiobooks side of it, there&#8217;s obviously some investment anytime you launch a new business. But again, as I said earlier, we feel really good about continuing to have a nice progression in gross margins into 2024.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026we are expecting gross margins to be improved in 2024.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2Fadd24425-f473-491b-9.png\" alt=\"Spotify gross margin by segment\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Opex<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Despite lots of efficiency promises in the past, it does seem the efficiency train is finally here.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>the new part of the Spotify modus operandi is our focus on efficiencies\u2026you should expect us to continue to look for more improvements going forward because that&#8217;s just our modus operandi.<\/p>\n<p>\u2026our expectations are now that we will consistently be in the black moving forward\u2026 we&#8217;ve hit an inflection point with respect to profitability of the business.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The numbers look very encouraging. In 3Q\u201922, Spotify spent \u20ac432 Mn in S&amp;M and added 23 Mn MAU and 7 mn subscribers in that quarter. In contrast, they spent 18% YoY lower in S&amp;M to drive basically similar outcome.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">G&amp;A was also down 19% YoY. R&amp;D was -4% YoY. You can finally smell some \u201cefficiency\u201d here.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/saupload_https_3A_2F_2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com_2Fpublic_2Fimages_2F895cc708-2942-41cf-a.png\" alt=\"OpEx\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings, MBI Deep Dives, Daloopa<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>AI<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">GenAI should be pretty neat in lowering cost of ad creatives and creating new demands:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>what generative AI has the promise to do is, of course, to allow for that creative <strong>cost to come down. But not only that, but it allows you to scale that creative in unimaginable ways<\/strong>. So you can translate whatever creative you had lots of different languages. You can use the same voice actor, but instead of producing 1 or 2 ads, you can have 1,000 or 10,000 or even 100,000 ads that are individually created to each user that gets to hear this.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Outlook for 4Q&#8217;23<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">While Spotify faces competition from perhaps the most potent set of competitors in the world (Google (GOOG)(GOOGL), Amazon (AMZN), and Apple (AAPL)), it has surprised (including me) how it reaccelerated its user growth at scale. Spotify reminded 2023 will be their highest year for net MAU add:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<p>2023 should finish with the highest net additions for MAUs and the second largest for subscribers in company history, but actually the largest if you exclude the impact of Russia<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">4Q\u201923 topline is expected to +20% YoY FXN. Impressive quarter, but probably need a couple of those to truly convince investors that things are different now. The stock doubled this year so far, so perhaps many investors already updated their views on Spotify.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/inbudgetalerts.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/50624080-16982158152106938.png\" alt=\"MAUs\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\"><span>Company Filings<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em><strong>Disclosure:<\/strong> I own shares of Spotify<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><em>Original Post<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong> The summary bullets for this article were chosen by Seeking Alpha 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